We always feel good when we talk to Melissa Clark, the cookbook author, New York Times writer, and home cook champion. Melissa chats with us about California chefs, her love for the Instant Pot, and her new Times column about unsung chefs around the country. (She wants you to DM her with some chef suggestions. Ping her @clarkbar.) Our second guest is Kerrilynn Pamer, co-founder of CAP Beauty, the wellness brand and boutique. Her new cookbook, High Vibrational Beauty: Recipes and Rituals for Radical Self Care, is out right now and features a very modern approach to cooking, eating, and stocking your pantry. We talk coconut butter, adaptogens, and her journey to wellness. Thank you to Emmi Cheese, Bob’s Red Mill, and Le Cordon Bleu for supporting our show!

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Photo by Erin Starkweather

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Photo by Melanie Dunea

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