According to Brian Kateman, if every American reduced their intake of meat and fish by 10%, huge gains would be made in personal and global health. So how do we moderate our consumption, and why should we?

On today’s show — the second in our series studying Moderation — we discuss why it’s so hard to not go whole-hog with certain foods overall. Then we dig into Kateman’s work with Reducetarianism and his new book, The Reducetarian Solution [Tarcher Pedigree]. How do the essay contributors see this reduction as playing out in religion, politics, and science? How do the most productive conversations come about in regards to this kind of moderation? And can just tightening by 10% really help ourselves and the planet?

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