This week on Nothing Urgent, Derek Evers and Chris Robbins discuss the closing of Williamsburg DIY venue with Ric Leichtung and Todd P. Ric is the curator of the soon-to-be-defunct space, and Todd’s involvement in the DIY music community dates back many years. Hear how Ric and Todd dealt with the myriads of the reactions surrounding the venue’s close. What bands were essential to 285’s final shows, and what shows throughout the space’s history were Ric and Todd’s favorites? Tune in to hear discussions regarding the sustainability of DIY in New York City. What separated 285 Kent from other Brooklyn DIY venues? Later, Malika Zouhali-Worrall joins the program to discuss the film she recently co-produced, directed, and wrote called Call Me Kuchu. The film follows David Kato, the first openly gay Ugandan, until his tragic murder. Hear how Ugandans reacted to the murder of David Kato, and how Malika was able to capture the sentiment in her film. How will the Anti Homosexuality Bill potentially affect Ugandans today? Learn more about the oppression of LGBT people in Uganda on this week’s edition of Nothing Urgent. Thanks to our sponsor, Heritage Foods USA.

“Everything in DIY, especially live music, is so transient. From my perspective, after a show is done, maybe there will be a flier or someone will take some pictures- but ultimately it’s done. It’s over.” [8:10]

Ric Leichtung on Nothing Urgent

“I used to say that I didn’t like going to traditional clubs because you would have to deal with a bouncer, you would get kicked out when the show was over… I think that there are just as many cliches about DIY that are just as lame and boring.” [23:15]

Todd P on Nothing Urgent

“Most homophobia in Uganda has come about very recently, and it’s due to the influence of American evangelicals…” [52:00]

Malika Zouhali-Worrall on Nothing Urgent