Conversations with Malcolm Harris and Julia Bainbridge.

This episode, we’re talking about loneliness—versus solitude, versus self-isolation. My first guest, author, editor, and critic Malcolm Harris and I discuss what it’s like to be young in America today: how obsession with productiveness and our human capital, has us feeling perpetually burnt out, anxious, and lonely.

During the latter half, I speak to Julia Bainbridge—writer, editor, and fellow podcaster. Her show, The Lonely Hour, explores loneliness and solitude—not as states to fix or escape, but ones to inhabit fearlessly and learn from. Because of the coronavirus-induced self-isolation, we’re all geting into a habit of being alone—something Julia worries is “dangerous for our species that’s hardwired for connection.”

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