This week on The Main Course Patrick and Katie have a deep, engaging conversation about the role of the rancher in our food system with Bill Bullard of the Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund. Bill works with R-CALF, a non-profit organization, to make sure farmers and ranchers own their livestock--NOT the meat packers, who often push for lower wages and lower quality. The lauded food author and journalist Peter Kaminsky then joins the conversation to talk about "culinary intelligence" and what kinds of meals the food culture in America encourages us to eat. This episode was sponsored by Whole Foods Market.