This week on U Look Hungry the South Dakotan sister duo of Ellen and Melissa Elsen come into the studio and they’ve brought pie! The two are the bakers and owners of Gowanus’s Four and Twenty Black Birds. They chat with host Helen Hollyman about their roots growing up in their mother’s restaurant kitchen, their inspiration and process for coming up with new seasonal pie recipes as well as what the essential ingredients are for a perfect pie crust. This episode is sponsored by S. Wallace Edwards & Sons.

“We love all-butter crust, the flavor of butter, you can’t get much better than that.”